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hey everybody I just did an interview with Chris\h
Cuomo over at news Nation uh it was short and\h\h

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sweet but it did give me a chance to call David\h
grush a hero which is something that he is and\h\h

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needs to be said so that was a good interview\h
for me I want to show it to you right now

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so you're absolutely sure that the\h
materials that these crafts are made of\h\h

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uh clearly not of this Earth yeah they're\h
sophisticatedly engineered certainly not by humans\h\h

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that was UFO whistleblower David grush revealing\h
in a news Nation exclusive that he believes the\h\h

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government has been covering up the existence of\h
alien life but can he be believed let's bring in\h\h

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Bryce zabel he's a writer producer investigative\h
journalist covers UFOs actually does a podcast\h\h

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with the guy doing the interview with grush uh\h
Bryce good to have you on the show thank you\h\h

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thank you for having me and you know I I really\h
want to call out how great I thought your\h\h

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introduction was because it's not about Little\h
Green Men anymore it's not about just lights in\h\h

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the sky but you're proving right now with this\h
coverage that news nation is doing and yourself\h\h

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uh Chris is that the stigma for this whole topic\h
needs to go away we need to take it on like any\h\h

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other story and and get to the bottom of it yeah\h
I mean the part that is I find unacceptable is if\h\h

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they have something that proves or disproves this\h
they should tell us because I I just think it's\h\h

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malfeasance I don't even think it's misfeasons I\h
don't think it's simple negligence I don't even\h\h

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think it's discretion they are intentionally\h
doing something that has three quarters of the\h\h

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population interested and if they could debunk\h
that they should that's transparency now uh let's\h\h

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do our own practice of it here sure uh what do\h
you know about grush and why should we trust them\h\h

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well I know about grush because my partner in\h
that podcast Ross coltarth the man who's doing\h\h

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the interview is someone I've been in contact\h
with obviously on a lot of these issues and a\h\h

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lot of the sources that he's had over uh the time\h
that we've known each other so I've I've seen the\h\h

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grush story coming I did spend a couple of days\h
with Dave grush uh in May uh the day before you\h\h

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guys actually taped the news Nation interview\h
and I was there for the news Nation interview and\h\h

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um I I think Rush is the real deal and I I look\h
forward to people putting as much attention on\h\h

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checking him out as they can because I think he\h
checks out wasn't fired uh doesn't have beef that\h\h

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we know about the government hasn't come forward\h
and said he was fired or has beef and in fact he\h\h

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is telling us the truth as far as we know about\h
going to DOD for pre-publication clearance and he\h\h

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was told not to talk about certain things is that\h
your understanding as well well that's what the\h\h

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it's called the dopsa document and it basically\h
allows him to talk about certain things now it's\h\h

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a dangerous game for a person uh like Dave grush\h
because that puts a line there and he has to as\h\h

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he's answering questions for Ross or yourself in\h
the future he has to wonder whether he's going\h\h

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over that line or not so he's got uh you know he's\h
he's obviously being watched by the government to\h\h

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make sure that he stays on the right side of what\h
they're allowing him to talk about but I think it\h\h

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is pretty wild that the the government has said\h
you know go ahead Dave tell your story and that's\h\h

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exactly what he's doing and it's interesting I\h
just I'm not sure people even understand this\h\h

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in addition to all the credentials this guy\h
has he actually worked on the presidential\h\h

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Daily Briefing he was one of the guys trusted\h
to literally walk that briefing over to the\h\h

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White House you know this is not some guy who\h
you know worked in the government 30 years ago\h\h

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who's coming forward with a YouTube video this is\h
a guy who was deeply involved in the intelligence\h\h

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community of the U.S government up until April of\h
this year and he's telling a story that as you've\h\h

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pointed out is pretty radical and yet there's\h
a lot of uh reason to believe that it's true\h\h

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now another contextual tool is corroboration\h
uh you're saying separate from the guy what\h\h

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he is talking about are things you have heard\h
from other sources that are not grush related\h\h

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absolutely um listen I I started as a screenwriter\h
looking into UFOs uh and and so I did a lot of\h\h

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research on it and I I've heard most of the\h
things that he's talking about and I've seen\h\h

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people talk about it I've read about them so\h
you can actually think about this as a secret\h\h

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that's been in plain sight for quite a while\h
uh what's different is that we actually have\h\h

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a Insider with the Merit and with the credentials\h
of Dave Crush who's willing to put his career and\h\h

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his own personal safety on the line to to tell us\h
about it so I think it's kind of a heroic thing\h\h

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that he's doing and and I think it may very\h
well turn out when we read the history books\h\h

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of the future they're going to pinpoint uh this\h
time this very time right now that we're in and\h\h

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say this is where things began to turn and people\h
began to really take it seriously and get to the\h\h

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Dave grush and the testimony he's been\h
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